Cave may not be Michael Jackson, but the only postwar entertainers who could legitimately claim to equal Jackson's celebrity effect - Sinatra, Presley - are dead. The American press, she decides, is far more prudish than its British counterpart - "We need to catch up with you guys because we're just butthole backwards," she says - and is taken aback by recent reports in the States that she's been promoting group sex without even realising. To have done it for as long as I have and to have had the success I've had - I mean, obviously, it's God, but it takes discipline and a great deal of focus for that. Kind of: "If Janet Jackson's doing it, maybe we should? I'm surprised [at people's reactions]. Fame is something she can switch on and off.
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